Call or Fold?
I am dealer, I look down and see KK on the 4th or 5th hand of the game (4000 starting chips). Limp, limp, limp goes the betters. Not wanting the A3 limpers to suck out on me I raised to 200 (4x the big blind). 1-3 people called me, I forget.
The flop comes up 9 7 5 rainbow, the first to act bets 100, everyone folded to me, I raised to 500 (pot sized or so), the raiser called.
Turn comes up another 5, I'm worried a little bit. He just checks, which could mean he's slowplaying trips so I didn't want to get trapped and I checked also.
River comes up a 3. The other guy leads off with a 1500 chip bet. Was he slowplaying his trip 5's and now trying to capitalize? Or was he trying to push me off the pot hoping I'd be afraid he had 5's?
I called him and before I reveal what he had I wanted some people to guess if my call was a good call and what he might have had, I don't want to pollute the thinking. I think I covered all the possible hands in my head. To make it clear it was the 4th or 5th hand of the game and the player was an unknown. So was I, it was the 1st pot we both played.
You heard it from... Dr Hubert Jackson @ 12:44 PM
6 Calls:
I wouldn't have checked after he checked. He might have been on say a 9 with a kicker. When you reraised him that most likely scared him. Which is why he probably checked. Especially after seeing the second 5. Now his thoughts as an idiot would be that you hit trips. You play thus far showed that you probably don't have anything close to a 5. If he's smart, he probably thinks that you have a higher pocker pair. Either way, he checked to get more info. When you checked he took it as weakness and figured that his two pair were good. I wouldn't be concerned about any straight. If this idiot called your raise with 86 suited then he's just a jack off and deserves to die.
But who knows. If your KK has been losing to AA, like mine has been, then if what I said previously isn't true. The dude has AA and you lost.
Nothing you could have done about it. And you played it right. Correction, nearly played it right. I would not have checked after he checked. You needed to see how he'd react. Giving him a free card does nothing for the cause.
I'm going to give him credit for having a hand. I say he had pocket 9s or pocket 7s--or even pocket 5s--giving him a set (or quads) on the flop. Because you raised him both preflop and when he bet on the flop, he probably thought you would bet into him. So when he turned a full house, he slowed down (a) because you'd been agressive, (b) because he knew he probably wouldn't be beat and wanted you to make a hand on the river, and (c) wanted to look like he didn't have the 5. Then he overbets the pot on the river, hoping (a) that you now think he doesn't have a 5 and is buying the pot,and (b) that you do indeed have a big pair, as he suspected.
I admit I'm giving him a lot of credit here, but this at least would be a rational betting strategy.
He had T9s, thanks for the thoughts. I didn't put him on a pocket pair because:
1. He just limped in before the flop.
2. He only raised 2x the big blind after the flop. I took that as more of a feeler bet rather than him hitting trips.
I'm just glad he didn't go all in, I'd have folded for sure.
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